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kathycf's picture
Relieved

I'm very glad to see the site is back up. Thank you to techie and brkopac for the work you have put into maintaining the site.

We're back

Great job in sorting the site problems out, I was hoping that you could fix it and you have, well done. Smile

bare_elf's picture
If the site is to close

Please save all the mods there are so many that are unique and there is no resource left for the mods. I do not care if all my posts are lost forever even though I have devoted half my life to the site, Just please save the mods! That way I can die in peace, there really is no reason to live without SiegetheDay Sad(
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Longevity

iryan wrote:
One consideration is that I hope there's some way of preserving any download links on the site as so many unique mods have already been lost permanently. If not, whether there's some way of migrating them to some place like say Nexus Mods, which has a Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 section but there's hardly anything there.

Our goal is to keep SiegeTheDay alive for as long as we can. In the event that the site becomes un-maintainable or "broken" we will put it into read-only mode and it will become an archive. From there we can provide a dump of all the files to a mirrored hosting site.

Good its back for now

It's good the site is back, at least for now and hope that the vulnerabilities can be patched. I was certainly shocked to see it down for the past week.

One consideration is that I hope there's some way of preserving any download links on the site as so many unique mods have already been lost permanently. If not, whether there's some way of migrating them to some place like say Nexus Mods, which has a Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 section but there's hardly anything there.

It's sad to see that one of the most successful modded games hardly has any mod representation anywhere but here.

Site upgrades

ghastley wrote:
It's always a good thing when you can just patch the vulnerabilities, and don't have to upgrade to a new version that's "improved" to the point that it won't work the way you like.

Unfortunately it wasn't that easy over the last week. I've been manually patching the website for the last year due to PHP compatibility issues. The server that the site is hosted on also hosts a multitude of other sites. This caused us big headaches to properly keep up with the patching process and keeping the other sites intact.

We are going to go through the exercise of ordering a new dedicated server and moving it to avoid these issues. The core of the website has also been setup to easily pull upstream security patches without significant downtime.

ghastley wrote:
I hope any "upgrades" the site needs are compatible with staying comfortable to use.

This has been a major roadblock of going to Drupal 7. We have a few compatibility problems with some of the optional modules we have enabled. I've been working on moving the site but there is 13 years worth of content that we have to keep intact.

ghastley's picture
That what I hoped

brkopac wrote:
The site went through a pretty extensive security patching and overview process. We are developing a plan to take the site through a vast amount of improvements. We will let everyone know what the plan is once it's a little more concrete.
It's always a good thing when you can just patch the vulnerabilities, and don't have to upgrade to a new version that's "improved" to the point that it won't work the way you like.

Especially these days, where it has become fashionable to hide what's a control, so you have no idea where to click, until you've moused over the entire screen.

I hope any "upgrades" the site needs are compatible with staying comfortable to use.

KillerGremal's picture
Good and Evil

ghastley wrote:
It doesn't look different. Is it new and improved, or just running in a deep pit where it can explode and nobody will notice?
I think it's not only about the look itself, it has to do something with security/safety resp. the long-term upkeep of this site.
 
Sometimes things don't grow as you would like to see it. Sometimes things may just get worse too.
So yes, it may explode in a deep pit (of despair), however it's probably the best case (form a global perspecitve) when you notice your beloved web site isn't here anymore - because it's evident then that something went wrong (and won't ambush out of the dark).

A thick plaster

The site went through a pretty extensive security patching and overview process. We are developing a plan to take the site through a vast amount of improvements. We will let everyone know what the plan is once it's a little more concrete.

ghastley's picture
Paper over the cracks?

It doesn't look different. Is it new and improved, or just running in a deep pit where it can explode and nobody will notice?

KillerGremal's picture
Back online!

Cool, the site is online again! Dance Thanks for all your efforts!

volkan's picture
Noticed them lurking, and

Noticed them lurking, and was waiting for the eventual spam. Good new site software then.

Sharkull's picture
Glad things are working for

Glad things are working for you again. Smile

...and I have to say it again: I really like this site software. I just deleted a batch of 13 new SPAM comments and they were never viewable by non-staff. :thumbup:

ghastley's picture
No changes here at work.

If I'd used IE6, I'd suspect company policy changes, but I use Opera to avoid those.

This is a problem I wasn't having on Tuesday. Could still be a bad cookie, so I'll clear any from here and see if it fixes the glitch.

Since it also happened on an edit, I'll do this as a test.

Looks like deleting and re-creating the cookie fixed it. Oh well...

Abstraction site
Dungeon Raider

Sharkull's picture
Login issues

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And on another topic.. I seem to get logged out each time I reply - did anything change recently?
Not that I know of... everything works fine for me (IE7). Perhaps there's a problem with your cookies (or browser settings for cookies)?

ghastley's picture
order reverse in inserted are posts

Latest first. Blog-style for folks who don't know how to scroll down?

And on another topic.. I seem to get logged out each time I reply - did anything change recently?

Abstraction site
Dungeon Raider

Sharkull's picture
On purpose...

This reverse sorting of comments is an option we've chosen to set with the site software. The standard sorting method doesn't work at all well in longer threads (identifying new content when there is more than one page of replies is difficult) and this is the best solution available. Yes, it is not ideal and it does take a while to get used to, but until certain behaviour is corrected within the software, I think we're going to stick with things the way they are. The alternative is worse (in the opinion of site staff, the last time we discussed it).
Smile

Balderstrom's picture
Odd Insertion of Forum Reply's ?

Seems odd when you reply to someone's post your new topic/post gets inserted above their post, instead of below their post? or even towards the end of the forum thread...

Makes it kinda difficult to follow conversation (?)

sol77's picture
Why thank you.

Why thank you. Smile

Gorgeous, gorgeous site!!!

Gorgeous, gorgeous site!!! Congratulations!

sol77's picture
We will have a dark and a

We will have a dark and a light theme, and a shoutbox when that has been fixed by the developer.

Unfortunately I can't give an e.t.a since it depends on how their new themeengine works, and when I can find time between school and work (and social stuff).

I am also waiting for the module that handles private messaging to be upgraded. They have working code right now but it needs more testing.

kathycf's picture
Well, maybe not as long as

Well, maybe not as long as that...Maybe the Friday after the 12th of Never? Wink But yes, I think it is safe to assume that when sol has time, updates will be forthcoming.
*pokes solly just because* Tongue

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firebat's picture
Knowing how busy Solly is

Knowing how busy Solly is with school I would say a week after the release of duke dukem forever Wink.

LoneKnight's picture
What's the E.T.A. for this

What's the E.T.A. for this update?

"Unkown" wrote:
It remains to be seen if DS can rise back from its ashes and dissociates from DS2 and GPG.

Templarian Arch Sorcerer's picture
Can the new one have a

Can the new one have a shoutbox?

kathycf's picture
Can users have a choice of

Can users have a choice of light or dark background if there is a new theme or updated one?

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sol77's picture
That is a good idea. I will

That is a good idea. I will add that when I do the update of this site.
just waiting for one small module before I start updating this theme, or make a new one.

Blondin235's picture
Hyah, sol

Hey sol, :wave:
- how about a "screenshot of the week" thumbnail-type thingy?
- it would look really good on the home page..
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Templarian Arch Sorcerer's picture
Yay

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This thread is for discussing our site here and how spiffy it is....

Oh yes, did I mention how much I love the Siegetheday color scheme? Smile

kathycf's picture
FilePlanet

I agree that FilePlanet is by far NOT the greatest, but I registered for free and can download any of the Dungeon Siege mods they have hosted for free. A paid subscription may be required to access other content or files, but none of the Dungeon Siege content...at least not in my experience.

But at any rate, FilePlanet talk is going a bit off-topic. This thread is for discussing our site here and how spiffy it is.... ^^

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Total absence of humor renders life impossible.
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