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Rapid Tank Creator and Anti-Virus Programs

I know many of us have encountered problems with Rapid Tank Creator 2 and Rapid Tank Creator 2.1, where some versions of Anti-Virus programs report that the RTC.exe program is a Trojan Horse, Virus, Back Door or some other problem and does not allow it to run. This can happen even when two people have the same version of the same Anti Virus (Iryan and I) tank creator works for him, for me on the other hand I can not tank a file unless I turn off the anti-virus.

This is the readme file for Rapid Tank Creator 2

Just so there will be no misunderstandings.

The RTC.exe has not been tampered with in any way. TankCreator2 does not use a
cracked or patch version of the Rapid Tank Creator. The TankCreator2 is designed
in the image of the first TankCreator, but thats where the similarity ends.

Here is how it works:

TankCreator2 uses the RTC.exe to make a Dungeon Siege 1 (.dsres) tankfile and
converts it into a Dungeon Siege 2 (.ds2res) tankfile afterwards.

Carsten Lervad (aka Zhixalom).
So what is happening is RTC is making a DS1 file and then converting it to a DS2 tank.

Therefore one could use a DS1 tank creator then using a hex editor change it to a DS2RES as KillerGremal pointed out in Tank from DS1 to DS2 Thread
Here http://siegetheday.org/?q=node/1525#comment-13640

Now at this point I am talking from my no ability to program point of view. Therefore someone with programming skills should be able to make a Tank Creation Program. Using Tank Creator (DS1 version) and some tool to edit the necessary code like KillerGremal's Convert_DS1_to_DS2.bat.

Does anyone have any idea on how to do this? or to look at the RTC.exe to find out if it really is a Trojan Horse and remove that code.

Elf

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That might be why on my laptop tankcreator2 fails but works on my desktop. Have same anti-virus installed on both and they update within minutes of each other. The desktop is windows 8 and the laptop is windows 7 works on desktop and fails on laptop. Thanks Elf hope you can find someone willing to write a new tank creator or find out why RTC is a virus on some computers and not on others.

I have Norton Internet Security as of September 2013, with live updates, on Windows 7 (64-bit). It treats tankcreator2.exe as a threat, Trojan.Gen.2, apparently on the grounds that anything that does something is guilty until proven innocent.

"Trojan.Gen.2 is a generic detection for many individual but varied Trojans for which specific definitions have not been created. A generic detection is used because it protects against many Trojans that share similar characteristics.

"Trojan horse programs pose as legitimate programs or files that users may recognize and want to use. They rely on this trick to lure a user into inadvertently running the Trojan. Often a Trojan will mimic a well known legitimate file name or pose as a particular type of file, like a .jpg or .doc file to trick a user."

I'm guessing Norton's problem is that Zhixalom is not a large software company known to Norton, Tank Creator has few known users vouching for it, and the download package has no electronic certificate of authenticity.

My first problem running TankCreator2 was to get it to ask me what to tank. I had to drag a folder (extracted by TankViewer) to tankcreator2.exe to "prime" the latter (create its Configuration settings file). Having done that once, I can now launch the .exe and it brings up RTC's box telling me what its input and output were last time, allowing different ones to be entered.

Also that first time, I twice had to speak firmly to my Norton, telling it to restore things it had removed to its quarantine. Sorry, I didn't take detailed notes what they were, I think tankcreator2.exe first and (I've found this in my Norton history) c:\users\[myself]\appdata\local\temp\rtc.exe second. The "threat" name against the latter is Suspicious.Cloud.9 "a detection technology designed to detect entirely new malware threats without traditional signatures" (translation: "anything Norton doesn't understand"?)

RSimpkinuk57 wrote:
I have Norton Internet Security as of September 2013, with live updates, on Windows 7 (64-bit). It treats tankcreator2.exe as a threat, Trojan.Gen.2, apparently on the grounds that anything that does something is guilty until proven innocent.

I'm guessing Norton's problem is that Zhixalom is not a large software company known to Norton, Tank Creator has few known users vouching for it, and the download package has no electronic certificate of authenticity.

1)Zhixalom is not a software company, Zhixalom is a modder's codename
2)Not only is Norton Internet Security "Old School", its pure junk today especially with all those "false positives"
3)the RTC needs to be recoded, the very fact it has RTC in its code will set off a virus scanner..as RTC was a virus in the old days...perhaps it should have gone by RapidTC and used that as its command line instead all those years ago, who knows, but the software itself is NOT a Trojan as it works as intended to create dungeon siege resource files.
4)this software was made in 2002, this is 2015 we now have windows 8.1 soon there will be win 10, coding has changed with the newer oses, perhaps this too should be updated