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It appears that the copy of Dungeon Siege Tool Kit that was installed was version 1.5 and not version 1.7 so even though things were loading correctly and the art packs say you must have version 1.1 installed once I deleted the older version and installed 1.7 all got better very quickly
Thank you for the tips. Now it is off to remember how to use qmax so that I can modify a few things with the characters.

Again tank you